Logan: I don't know what I'm going to do precisely but I think it's going to be a chill one. I don't have any work going on this next coming week. Sometimes when I have weeks like that where I don't have any shoots lined up or anything due to anyone, it's kind of a struggle for me, because... [pauses] When you're a freelancer, especially a photographer, in my mind I could treat this type of week as time off or I can try to be really productive, whatever that means to me then.
Logan: I would love to be like, cool, I don't have any shoots or meetings this week, so let me actually do something a normal person would do if they have like five vacation days. I just can't! [both laughing] Luckily, the frequency at which I'm working is working for me and making me money, but there is this guilt built in and this comparison to my peers. I think it has a lot to do with Instagram where you look at it and think, oh, everybody's busy every single day of their lives, but not me! [laughing]
Mo: I technically am on a mini break for the next couple of days, but realized I had some free time today to schedule a bunch of interviews back-to-back. So right now I feel good when I see people working because I'm in work mode, even though I should be relaxing. But it's the opposite when I'm hanging out and being a loaf. No one in freelance teaches you how to relax.
Logan: That's something I didn't learn in school! [both laughing]
Mo: If only SVA had a freelancer relaxation program.
Logan: There's a new administration in the photo program so I could pitch that to them! That's an interesting idea, right? How to live as a freelancer. I have actually toyed with the idea of teaching.
Mo: I've definitely seen people lead classes or become an adjunct professor along with continuing to pursue a full-time creative career.
Logan: I think it's a good exercise for a photographer, even if you're really not making money off of it. My friend David Geeting teaches there now which is so funny and cool. If I had him as a teacher, it would've been such a good experience. He's young and wacky, and is the least by-the-book person in the biz.
Mo: That's just who I was thinking of when we started talking about this. His class seems like fun. Is there anything you wish someone told you how to do that you had to figure out on your own?
Logan: It's hard to pinpoint what they did and didn't talk about because it all feels like a blur, and I might’ve missed some things. I graduated four years ago, and things change so frequently there. That said, I don't think they gave us the best tools for putting yourself out there as a photographer. There were a few courses I remember where things like promo cards and email blasts were discussed, and even then I remember thinking, “Do those work?” When I was in school Instagram was on the come-up and I remember hearing some of my peers mentioning that it would be tacky to put your work on Instagram. Now it's like, how can you not? Instagram now feels like such a big part of the industry, but there’s also this comparison element to it which I think can make people feel buried alive sometimes.